
My parents were watching my kids (6M and 7F) for a few days, Sunday till Wednesday, while my partner and I were working. They were staying with my parents at a camping ground in an other city (120 Km away - about 75 miles).
On Monday, my dad (kids’ grandpa) had a sudden medical emergency and had to be taken to the hospital. During that time, my mom (kids’ grandma) left our kids in the care of two of their camping friends (let’s call them M & S) for about an hour.
We learned about the medical situation on Tuesday afternoon. While we receive a lot of pictures of the kids on Tuesday morning, my mom assured us everything was going fine, and never mentioned the hospitalization.
Here’s the problem: we don’t know M & S, and my parents never told us this happened. We only found out over 24 hours later, when I started asking specific questions about who was watching the kids during the hospital trip.
When I confronted them, they said it was a “force majeure” situation and assumed we’d understand. I told them I would have understood if they had told us at the time, but finding out afterward meant that if there had been an emergency, we wouldn’t even know who had our kids.
When asked how long our kids were in M & S care, they kept downplaying it (first saying “about an hour,” later “only 5 minutes at the hospital”). When I told I wanted the kids back immediately, the emotional pressure started: “Don’t do this to your kids, they’ll be so sad” and “You’ll ruin their fun.” I told them to stop the emotional blackmail and that we wanted the kids back.
They refused at first, saying they’d bring them back the next day as planned. I warned that if they didn’t return the kids that night, I would contact the authorities. Only then did they agree, and we picked up our kids that evening from the campground.
We don’t own a vehicle, so we had to take an Uber to the camping ground which cost us over $300 CAD. Not a problem, my kids safety is far more important than 300 bucks, but still, it carves a hole in our budget.
Now they say I “overreacted” and “hurt the kids” by ending the visit early. From my perspective, they violated a major boundary we had already discussed in the past and withheld important information for more than a day. AITA for insisting on getting my kids back right away instead of letting them stay one more night?
GothPenguin said:
NTA - even in an emergency someone should have taken a few minutes to let you know who had your children. Leaving them with strangers has consequences.
Hyperboleiskillingus said:
Soft YTA. It sounds like they were in a difficult situation with a medical emergency and took reasonable steps to manage the situation and ensure everyone was safe. I agree that they should have been informed immediately but I don't understand why you got SO very upset. It was an emergency and your mom probably had a lot on her mind while dealing with your dad at the hospital.
WestCovina1234 said :
YTA. They didn't leave the kids with strangers, they left them with friends. For an hour. During an emergency. Threatening to contact the authorities -- at a time when you knew the kids were absolutely fine -- is so crazy over-the-top that it defies belief.
Cloud9_Forest said:
Your dad is having a heart attack, and yet here you are fighting your parents. I guess you already didn’t have a good relationship with them anyway since (1) you didn’t care about your dad’s health, and (2) you didn’t trust your mother’s judgement.
Think again, did you also get angry at being told so late that your father was almost dying of heart attack? It is emergency, so you spent hundreds of dollars to pick your kids, but did you also spend so much to see your father immediately to see how he is doing? YTA for make the fighting now, and not later after the hectic situation is ended.
OldMammaSpeaks said:
YTA because it was an unnecessary escalation. In the midst of your father having a heart attack, your mom made sure your kids were safe. I get that not telling you was problematic. But why was a simple conversation establishing rules or a plan for the future not enough?
vera_luna said:
YTA. You sound like a helicopter parent. If your parents trusted their friends to take care of the kids for an hour, there should be no problem. Could it be that they didn’t tell you because they expected that you would react this way?
Update : Just called my dad. He's still in Hospital, we're waiting test results. He might have a surgery to install a pacemaker tomorrow or saturday. He's doing ok in the circumstances.
Update 2 : Confirmed, the surgery will be tomorrow to install a pacemaker.
Update 3 : Finally! Some clear answers. I’ve just received confirmation of the diagnosis (Thursday, 7:10 p.m. — more than 72 hours after the incident). It wasn’t a heart attack, but malignant arrhythmia. My father will be discharged from the hospital tomorrow.
Update post-verdict:
Thank you all for your votes and comments; it’s been an enriching experience. I’m relieved to see the final judgment.
So for now, we’re going to reduce contact with the grandparents. Once my father has recovered, we’ll have another serious conversation about our boundaries. They will no longer be allowed to see the children without our presence. And we haven’t yet made a final decision about whether we’ll return to greyrocking of full No-contact.
I’ve noticed a real divide between those who focused solely on the accident and our reaction, and those who considered the broader climate of manipulation and gaslighting. I also want to warmly thank everyone who shared their experiences with similar family dynamics. It’s hard to understand these kinds of situations without having lived through them, and it’s important to talk about them. THANK YOU.
One last point—my partner pointed out that many of the responses assumed I was a woman, even though I never disclosed my gender - as it shouldn’t be a relevant factor in this kind of judgment. She wonders whether that assumption might explain some of the more aggressive comments that dismissed my reaction as “overly emotional” or “hysterical.”
For the record, I’m a cisgender man. These decisions were made jointly with my partner, the children’s mother. I just want to take a moment to raise awareness about the possibility of gender bias, and I’ll leave the question open.
Update 4 : Wow, we just found out that it was my son (6 years old) who immediately went to get help when he saw my father fall. I'm so proud of him — he may have saved his life. I can't believe my 6-year-old acted so proactively instead of panicking!
Final Update:
It’s now Saturday.My father is out of the hospital, he got his pacemaker, everything went well. He’s back home.
The kids are talking more and more.
We finally learned that my father’s cardiac episode happened early Monday afternoon.
The kids weren’t with M(F) & S(M) for just an hour, nor even just one afternoon, but rather “almost the entire day” under M’s care only, since S had gone with my mother to the hospital to see my father. I feel both relieved that my mother was there for my dad and discouraged to see the extent of the lies.
During that day, M took the kids to the campground pool, but thankfully she made sure they wore their life jackets. As I’ve explained in other comments, my son is very active (possible ADHD, to be confirmed) and can be a lot to handle for one person, especially someone not used to it.
We also learned that my son went on a car ride alone with S to the grocery store to buy “ice cream, strawberries, and wine for M.” I don’t know how much wine was actually consumed, and tough I don’t drink myself I still respect other people’s right to do so. That said, I personally would have preferred they stayed completely sober while taking care of the kids.
Still, I’m not panicking about that part. Maybe it was only one glass.
What I do have a hard time forgiving is that my son was taken on a car ride alone with someone who was, to him, essentially a stranger.
Finally, the kids told us that their grandmother specifically asked them not to tell us. Clearly, she had no intention of informing us, and thankfully our vigilance—especially my partner’s—made us suspicious.
Advice to parents: Trust your gut feeling! Without falling into paranoia, if something worries you, ask question. And if the answers don’t make sense or contradict each other, listen to yourself.
I recently shared this story on AITA and quickly noticed that the comments varied a lot depending on whether or not people took into account the manipulative family dynamics. So I figured this might also be of interest here.
Long story short: I (38M) agreed to let my kids, T (6M) and Y (7F), go camping with my parents from Sunday to Wednesday last week.
There’s a long history of them not respecting our personal or parental boundaries, but after a period of several months of no contact last year, things really seemed to improve and we thought they had understood. That was our mistake, and I take full responsibility for it. I should have known better.
On Monday afternoon, my dad had a serious cardiac episode (malignant arrhythmia) and had to be taken to the ER. We were never told.
Normally, when my mom is watching the kids, she bombards us with huge wall-of-text updates detailing their day. But that Monday, we got nothing, which worried my partner (37F) who found it “unusual.”
Around 10 PM, my partner asked for news and this is the reply we got:
“Yes! We didn’t have time to update you because we had visitors (M and S, who are camping at [City]) and the kids really enjoyed them. T even went to the grocery store in S’s Tesla. They stayed for dinner. After dinner, C, a friend from the campground, came by and asked the kids to come back to the pool.
So T swam across the pool and back, and started jumping too. D is like a freshwater mermaid. I wouldn’t be surprised if they started growing scales! Don’t worry. It’s a beautiful campground. They’re safe, confident, and very happy.”
Not a single mention that my dad was in the hospital for a heart problem.
Tuesday morning, we got photos of the kids playing at the campground with this message: “T is having so much fun on the scooter. He’s amazing!” A few hours later, more photos: “Still very hot outside. We’re alternating between inside and outside activities. Afternoon will definitely be pool time.”
Still no mention of my dad’s situation. Finally, only on Tuesday around 1 PM my mom texted: “[Your dad] had a ‘malaise’. Taken to the hospital. Friends are at the campground.”
A malaise… seriously? My dad had a cardiac episode, collapsed in front of my son, and she just calls it a “malaise.” More importantly, we then realized that M and S’s presence the day before might hide something.
I immediately told my parents that I could take time off work and handle the kids: “I can request to work from home for the rest of the week. We can take the kids anytime. I’m sure you’ll all need rest.” I got no reply until 5:30 PM: “Don’t worry. The kids handled it all well. M and S are very present and attentive.”
That’s when my partner understood that M and S were the ones watching the kids.
When we asked more questions, we got shifting versions of the story. They justified leaving the kids with others as “force majeure” (which we could understand), but that doesn’t explain why we weren’t told. They minimized everything, first saying it was only “for an hour” (our kids later told us it was “almost the whole day”).
When I asked to pick them up, my mom refused. She sent photos of the kids having fun and accused me of “overreacting”: “Don’t do this to your kids, they don’t deserve it. Imagine the pain you’ll cause them.” and “You’ll be hurting your kids, they’re so happy—don’t ruin it.”
I really can't understand why she returned to camping and continue the trip! Seriously, the trip should have been cancelled on monday and my mother should have been at my father's side.
It was only when I threatened to contact the authorities that she finally agreed to let me take them back. Since I don’t have a car, we ended up taking an Uber to the campground (120 km / 75 miles from home) to pick them up.
Honestly, I still can’t believe it:
They hid my dad’s cardiac episode for more than 24 hours;
They left my young kids with strangers (to them and to us) without telling me or giving me any contact info;
They refused to return them when I asked;
And of course, classic DARVO.
If you check my AITA post, you’ll see the wide range of comments—lots of “peacekeepers” and “enablers” but also many who really understood the situation.
That’s really the hardest part of these family dynamics: you end up doubting the validity of your concerns, even when they’re completely legitimate.
And for the record, my dad is okay—he was operate to install a pacemaker and he’s back home now.
Edit: Just to add, of course, we'll be back to no-contact.
Here’s an update to my previous post about my parents hiding my dad’s cardiac episode while they were watching my kids and leaving them with strangers.
Shortly after that post, my grandmother passed away. My dad reached out to inform me and ensure I’d attend the funeral. Since my parents live in the same city as me (they moved here—arguably to invade our space—after my first kid was born), they offered to drive me to the funeral.
I declined, opting for a bus to avoid being “held hostage” in their car for 3 hours. Note: my dad can’t drive due to his heart condition, so my mom—who has little driving experience—would’ve been behind the wheel.
Hoping to rebuild bridges (I should have known better...), I booked a room at the same hotel as them—big mistake. By some “coincidence,” I arrived while they were still in the lobby. They greeted me, I responded politely, and they suggested meeting up after I checked in. I didn’t reply. Then they said, “Okay, we’ll see you for breakfast tomorrow.”
Next morning, they texted at 7:00 AM about breakfast. I wasn’t ready—mentally or otherwise—so I didn’t respond. Later, they texted to meet in the lobby at 8:00 AM. No reply from me. At 8:02, my dad called; I ignored it. At 8:05, I went to check out and ran into him. He asked if I’d ride with them to the funeral. I said no, I’d take a taxi.
Yes, it cost me, but my mental health is worth more than a cab fare. At the funeral, to avoid a scene (it was for my grandmother, after all), I sat with them during the ceremony and dinner but left by taxi without saying goodbye.
Two days ago, I got a 700+ word Facebook message from my mom—pure DARVO and guilt-tripping. No apology, no accountability for the camping incident. Instead, lines like: “[Dad ]has a broken heart, literally and figuratively” and “Who can I count on in an emergency?
You know you can count on us. Can we count on each other?” She even quoted Barbara’s Dis, quand reviendras-tu? to tug at the heartstrings.
I blocked her immediately and messaged my dad:
"For you info, Mom is blocked on my facebook... again. I've learned not to hold grudges. She is who she is and expecting changes is pointless. I know you won't understand my reasons, so let's just say I need to protect myself and my family.
His reply? A copy-paste of my mom’s letter. No words, no apology, no engagement—just her letter, verbatim.
Why do we keep hoping for a spark of change when it’s clearly beyond their capacity?
I’m sharing this as a message of hope for those stuck in the same patterns. Their tactics lose power once you spot them.
This cements my decision: NO CONTACT. Bring on the flying monkeys—I’m ready! 😄
Thanks for the support in my last post. It’s helped me stay grounded.
New update - the next day:
My father just wrote to me — they’re putting their condo up for sale and moving back to their hometown.
It’s both a wound and a relief.
A wound, because clearly we’re going to be cast as the bad guys. The ungrateful son who turns against his parents and weaponizes his children by keeping them from seeing them.
A relief, because at least they’ll be 300 km away and we’ll finally be able to breathe a little.
They still refuse to acknowledge the facts or apologize. I’m just exhausted.
But I think this is the end, once and for all.
I accept that I’ll be the black sheep in the extended family, that I’ll play the bad role, and that they’ll control the narrative.
But I’ll try to see this as a new freedom and a fresh start.
I’m mostly disappointed for my kids, who are losing grandparents they loved.